Comments on: RNC 08: America, support your patriot youth! http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/1034 the bottom of the rabbit hole Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:23:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: twelvetwenty http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/1034/comment-page-1#comment-27391 twelvetwenty Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:07:45 +0000 http://www.bradspangler.com/?p=1034#comment-27391 S&H are great! I was a member of the forum for a long time. There is a small libertarian presence there. Based on historical trends, current economic conditions, and the natural fire of the fourth turning, I would expect an evolution to corporate polities. S&H are great! I was a member of the forum for a long time. There is a small libertarian presence there.

Based on historical trends, current economic conditions, and the natural fire of the fourth turning, I would expect an evolution to corporate polities.

]]> By: Brad Spangler http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/1034/comment-page-1#comment-27384 Brad Spangler Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:46:43 +0000 http://www.bradspangler.com/?p=1034#comment-27384 Victor, thanks for your input. I think I am correct to whatever extent Strauss and Howe are also correct. In their framework, the animating ethos/values of a new saeculum are pretty much born in the Awakening (Second Turning) phase of the previous saeculum and are brought to a position of social dominance during the Crisis (Fourth Turning) that ends that previous saeculum. The last Awakening in their framework was roughly the mid-60's through early 80's. That basically narrows the potential winners down to just four: 1) free-market libertarianism, 2) libertarian socialism, 3) a blend of watered down versions of both or 4) the fulfillment of both, otherwise known as anarchism. Victor, thanks for your input. I think I am correct to whatever extent Strauss and Howe are also correct. In their framework, the animating ethos/values of a new saeculum are pretty much born in the Awakening (Second Turning) phase of the previous saeculum and are brought to a position of social dominance during the Crisis (Fourth Turning) that ends that previous saeculum. The last Awakening in their framework was roughly the mid-60’s through early 80’s. That basically narrows the potential winners down to just four: 1) free-market libertarianism, 2) libertarian socialism, 3) a blend of watered down versions of both or 4) the fulfillment of both, otherwise known as anarchism.

]]> By: Victor Milan http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/1034/comment-page-1#comment-27383 Victor Milan Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:51:53 +0000 http://www.bradspangler.com/?p=1034#comment-27383 Interesting take on the advent of a "Hero Generation." While I've yet to read <i>The Fourth Turning</i>, hence know little about it, it seems that the commentators I've seen on it universally regard a Hero Generation as being collectivist cannon fodder, along the lines of the "Greatest Generation" that fueled the socialist mass-murder factories of WWII - basically, every combatant. I find that "Greatest Generation" moniker a hideous falsehood - except from the viewpoint of the monstrous tyrants who stalked the Earth in those days and killed upwards of 100 million humans. Needless to say, I prefer your take on what a rising Hero Generation might consist of. Hope you're right. Interesting take on the advent of a “Hero Generation.” While I’ve yet to read The Fourth Turning, hence know little about it, it seems that the commentators I’ve seen on it universally regard a Hero Generation as being collectivist cannon fodder, along the lines of the “Greatest Generation” that fueled the socialist mass-murder factories of WWII - basically, every combatant.

I find that “Greatest Generation” moniker a hideous falsehood - except from the viewpoint of the monstrous tyrants who stalked the Earth in those days and killed upwards of 100 million humans.

Needless to say, I prefer your take on what a rising Hero Generation might consist of. Hope you’re right.

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