Comments on: 9/11 and the search for truth http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/469 the bottom of the rabbit hole Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:30:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: jeremy http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/469/comment-page-1#comment-11591 jeremy Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:30:16 +0000 http://www.bradspangler.com/blog/?p=469#comment-11591 I think you make a good point about conspiracy theorists when you argue that they ignore the evil right in front of their faces, plain as day, in favor of a more elaborate and sexy evil. The point should be that NOTHING the government is saying adds up. The history doesn't add up, the evidence doesn't add up, and the policies prosecuted in the war on terror certainly don't add up. I don't have a problem with speculating on a conspiracy, but that conspiracy should draw upon a larger systemic understanding of the situation than simply fingering the bad guys (as <a href="http://blog.6thdensity.net/?p=515" rel="nofollow">I argued recently</a>). I think you make a good point about conspiracy theorists when you argue that they ignore the evil right in front of their faces, plain as day, in favor of a more elaborate and sexy evil.

The point should be that NOTHING the government is saying adds up. The history doesn’t add up, the evidence doesn’t add up, and the policies prosecuted in the war on terror certainly don’t add up. I don’t have a problem with speculating on a conspiracy, but that conspiracy should draw upon a larger systemic understanding of the situation than simply fingering the bad guys (as I argued recently).

]]> By: nullset9 http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/469/comment-page-1#comment-11587 nullset9 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:33:10 +0000 http://www.bradspangler.com/blog/?p=469#comment-11587 "The Power Elite didn’t have to carry out 9/11 in order to benefit from it. They undoubtedly, in general terms, saw it coming. Their critics certainly did." And that's the real conspiracy. Whether they had their fingers directly in it or not, they purposely destabilize the world all the time. The more terrorism there is the better off they are. “The Power Elite didn’t have to carry out 9/11 in order to benefit from it. They undoubtedly, in general terms, saw it coming. Their critics certainly did.”

And that’s the real conspiracy. Whether they had their fingers directly in it or not, they purposely destabilize the world all the time. The more terrorism there is the better off they are.

]]> By: Psychopolitik » Five years http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/469/comment-page-1#comment-11530 Psychopolitik » Five years Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:22:04 +0000 http://www.bradspangler.com/blog/?p=469#comment-11530 [...] Unfortunately, as Brad reminds us, “our” government has robbed us of full grounds to bark: There is a point which is still, five years later, lacking its deserved prominence in our public discourse. [...] [...] Unfortunately, as Brad reminds us, “our” government has robbed us of full grounds to bark: There is a point which is still, five years later, lacking its deserved prominence in our public discourse. [...]

]]> By: Kitty Antonik Wakfer http://bradspangler.com/blog/archives/469/comment-page-1#comment-11525 Kitty Antonik Wakfer Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:25:19 +0000 http://www.bradspangler.com/blog/?p=469#comment-11525 I agree, Brad, that even if (and that's a mighty big "if") the Bush administration's claims of 9/11/06 events are true, the acts of government made it all possible. The enormous amount of time spent by those poring over videos, documents and other pieces of evidence from the tragic events of 9/11/01 is mostly poor use of limited available time. How many more examples are needed of the harm caused by governments, for the very fact that they are rulers of everyone else? Yes, a "return to the Constitution", as so many urge, is not the answer since, as you phrase it, "the beast of government inevitably casts off chains of constitutional restraint." I would add that the US Constitution never "contained" the "beast" since it simply created a different "beast" - government - than had existed previously elsewhere, but still a ruler. Thanks for another well done piece. I wrote my own more than reflection stemming from the 5th anniversary of September 11, 2001, including a review of government as "the problem". Simply remembering what took place on that date is insufficient. Understanding the underlying reasons for the tragedy and comprehending a fundamental lasting solution require more, but are within the capabilities of anyone truly desirous of a society of individuals interacting to mutual benefit. http://selfsip.org/focus/morethanreflection.html **Kitty Antonik Wakfer MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting I agree, Brad, that even if (and that’s a mighty big “if”) the Bush administration’s claims of 9/11/06 events are true, the acts of government made it all possible. The enormous amount of time spent by those poring over videos, documents and other pieces of evidence from the tragic events of 9/11/01 is mostly poor use of limited available time. How many more examples are needed of the harm caused by governments, for the very fact that they are rulers of everyone else?

Yes, a “return to the Constitution”, as so many urge, is not the answer since, as you phrase it, “the beast of government inevitably casts off chains of constitutional restraint.” I would add that the US Constitution never “contained” the “beast” since it simply created a different “beast” - government - than had existed previously elsewhere, but still a ruler.

Thanks for another well done piece.

I wrote my own more than reflection stemming from the 5th anniversary of September 11, 2001, including a review of government as “the problem”. Simply remembering what took place on that date is insufficient. Understanding the underlying reasons for the tragedy and comprehending a fundamental lasting solution require more, but are within the capabilities of anyone truly desirous of a society of individuals interacting to mutual benefit. http://selfsip.org/focus/morethanreflection.html

**Kitty Antonik Wakfer

MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality
Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org
Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting

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